Barry Took

Barry Took

Date of birth: 19-06-1928
Date of death: 31-03-2002

Took was born the son of a commercial traveller, who was prone to bouts of depression. His academic brother committed suicide, and Took has admitted to periods of darkness himself - the almost stereotypical comedian wracked by misery.

But his public face was of the genial old duffer - unfortunately more to do with his long-running role as the host of BBC1's Points Of View - which raised his profile, but did little to acknowledge his impressive contribution to the world of comedy.

Took was the long-time writing partner of Marty Feldman, starting as a gag writer and on such radio shows as Beyond Our Ken, whose stars included Kenneth Horne, Kenneth Willams, Hugh Paddick and Stanley Unwin.

One of the writing pair's greatest acheivements is Round The Horne, took off from where Beyond The Ken left off.

The groundbreaking shows featured such over-the-top characters as Rambling Syd Rumpo, and Dame Celia Molestrangler contrasting with the straight-laced Horne.

It also featured the overtly camp Julian and Sandy, played by Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick, whose archaic Polari gay slang proved sufficiently impenetrable to the BBC censors, who unwittingly allowed some outrageous double entendres to be broadcast .

Although in the foreward to the 1999 collecion of scripts The Best Of Round The Horne, Took wrote: "With hand on my heart, Marty and I were not aware of everything into which the audience read a double meaning."

He added: "It was a joy to be a part of the team that created Round The Horne. I was involved with the show at a time of my life when I was very happy., and that happiness overflowed into the scripts."

After Round The Horne, Took moved more heavily into TV, co-writing Marty Feldman's show It's Marty , and the World Of Beachcomer, a TV show based on the writings of the famed Daily Express column.

Took wrote, on occassion, for most of the biggest names in comedy, including Tommy Cooper, Harry Secombea nd Frankie Howerd.

He also took a sabbatical from the BBC to go to the US to work on NBC's seminal Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In as one of the scriptwiritng team.

One of Took's biggest contributions to comedy, though, was not as a writer: for he was the man responsible for bringing the Monty Python team together.

A BBC producer the time, he had the foresight to bring two together separate writing teams ­ John Cleese and Graham Chapman and Michael Palin and Terry Jones ­ with spectacular results.

Took also, as head of light entertainment at LWT, discovered the scriptwriting team of Laurence Marks and Maurice Gran, responsible for a slew of British sitcoms from The New Statesmen to Birds Of A Feather.

Although primarily a writer, he was also a performer - most notably as the host of Radio 4' s long-running News Quiz

But Took's genial persona occassionally cracked. In 1994, he launched an attack on the BBC's bigwigs of the time, Marmaduke Hussey and John Birt, saying they knew "bugger all" about broadcasting. In another attack, three years later, he slammed the corportaton for neglecting comedy, a subject he said they never understood.

He underwent treatment for cancer in 1998, and was plagued by ill health in his later years - including a stroke in 2000 which affected his speech and his dexterity. In an interview soon afterwards he said: "Of course there are times when I think, 'I'd be better out of this.'"

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How David Frost almost scuppered Monty Python

Star didn't want to release John Cleese from his contract

David Frost almost scuppered Monty Python’s Flying Circus by refusing to release John Cleese from his contract, a memo fromn the BBC archives reveals.

Cleese came to fame in the mid-1960s on The Frost Report, alongside Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett, and went on to make At Last The 1948 Show with his Cambridge pal Graham Chapman for Frost’s production company, Paradine.

But when the pair joined forces with Michael Palin, Terry Jones, Eric Idle and Terry Gilliam for the new TV project that would become Monty Python’s Flying Circus, Frost wanted a slice of the action.

A memo from comedian Barry Took, who was at the time a consultant for the BBC, revealed the tensions.

Writing to entertainment executives, he says: ‘John Cleese phoned me today (20.4.69) to say that he is still under contract to Paradine Productions who want to be involved in "The Circus" project in a co production. 

‘Should the BBC be uninterested in the idea of co- production with Paradine, John Cleese must withdraw from the project as a performer, although he says he will be able to contribute to the scripts. 

‘This being so, I suggest that we scrap the idea of The Circus and proceed with my original concept a show starring Michael Palin, Terry Jones and Eric Idle, with cartoon inserts by Terry Gilliam. 

‘A "Comedy Playhouse" on BBC2 made in June, should if successful be followed by a six or seven episode series starting in week 34. This series could be placed on BBC1 or BBC 2, whichever channel needs servicing. 

‘When John Cleese is freed from his Paradine committment [sic] we can then re-examine the concept of The Circus, say in 1971.’

David FrostThe archives do not reveal what happened next, but the BBC were apparently successful in seeing off 30-year-old Frost,  right, who was already a powerful broadcasting impresario as well as a star. Episode one of Monty Python’s Flying Circus was recorded on September  7, 1969, and premiered on October 5 on BBC One.

Took’s memo has just been released by the broadcaster as part of a cache of archive material celebrating the career of David Attenborough, who was the BBC’s director of programmes at the time, having previously been head of BBC Two.

Documents also show that the Pythons were slow to settle on a name for their project.

In July 1969 – just two months before filming – head of comedy Michael Mills wrote to producer Ian MacNaughton urging him: ‘The time has come when we must stop having peculiar titles and settle for one overall title for the series. Please would you have a word with them and try to produce something palatable.’

Other documents show how viewers’ reaction was divided over the surreal new comedy programme.

Audience research say that  a quarter of viewers ‘responded in an unfavourable, if not, indeed, hostile fashion. It was, they often thought, a "load of rubbish, a stupid and, frequently, quite meaningless programme that, far from being funny, was one long bore"… the humour was infantile, it was said and the show failed to raise even a smile. "I honestly can't remember when I have watched so much tripe".

Yet about  half the ‘small’ sample had  thoroughly enjoyed the programme. The memo notes: ‘It was, several claimed, quite one of the most amusing and entertaining shows they had seen inspired "Goon-like" humour that exploited the medium of television to the full, with sketches, cartoon sequences, animated pictures, etc, and, over all, a delicious sense of the ridiculous "it is outrageous and I enjoy every minute of it".

The papers add: ‘According to some, the programme was funny in places but rather too silly in others: the ideas were good but "something went wrong in the visual telling of them".’

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